An entire volume could be written about the variations of the Allen and Thurber iconic pepperbox 'revolving pistols'. The recoil isn’t bad at all. Our review sample shot high…four to six inches at 15 feet. We had her chambers honed a little bit to prevent the cases from sticking. I’d certainly suggest shooting the gun before you buy one if possible. make it into a real fun gun. When the rounds won’t “drop” in to the cylinder, it may misfire. When using two fingers, the added leverage the second finger (your middle digit) provides is plenty to fully pull the trigger. I think I’ve solved the home defense equation. This slight difference translates to a slight difference as to when each round exits their respective barrel. All parts were nicely finished. Standard apparently subscribes to the old maxim that 90% of defensive gun uses involve no more than three shots within three seconds at no more than three yards. The trigger is a pain in the ass to get used to. And he makes funny faces and some wounded moose noises while doing it. And let’s face it, the Thunderstruck is intended as a personal defense weapon. But feel wasn’t Standard’s first priority in its trigger design. The travel of the trigger then actuates a transfer bar, which will only then allow the gun to fire. I think it’s for those that like easy carry and practice. Revolver pepperbox percussion pistols. That’s great if the BGs cooperate. Like the noisy cricket from MIB. Thanks for the tip. I reviewed one years ago. It’ll be an episode of Forgotten Weapons in 3 years. High-ranking officers, like their European counterparts, often had their swords ornately engraved with gilding and foliage. Once you shoot the S333 more and make friends with that trigger, the little revolver becomes plenty accurate enough for personal protection purposes. Ammo isn’t that expensive, it’s a cool piece but I didn’t enjoy it. The trailing round is inescapably subject to the turbulence of the leading round’s shock wave, causing its ballistic properties to go to crap. C’est mon seul revolver de cette marque. Strangest modern firearm I ever saw. Frame material: 7075 aluminum I may have read it in the American Rifleman. 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They may be fun on the range, but they have no place on the street. Allen and Wheelock revolver pepperbox, 6 barrel 1845 patent date. So, again, no thanks. I think they’d get a lot more sales if they offered a 22lr cylinder for practice. Overall: * * * Use only CCI (any), Hornady Critical Defense, Remington Premier, or Federal Game Shock for .22 WMR. What if we are talking about self defense against a bear? That’s the gun’s legality. It’s kind if a solution to rimfire unreliability. If the S333 passes their test — and it has — that’s legal enough for me. With two digits it feels like a “conventionally” heavy 10-15 pounds of pull. As for reliability, the Thunderstruck went bang every time with each full pull of the trigger. That’s something I worked my way out of with practice. Take A Sneak Peak At The Movies Coming Out This Week (8/12) 25 years since Happy Gilmore: Adam Sandler through the years They’re still well within minute of bad guy, but . . Plenty of guys are carrying the NAA Mini revolver, which shoots ONLY ONE bullet at a time and has to be cocked for EACH SHOT! The S333 Thunderstruck fires two rounds of .22 WMR simultaneously from 1.25-inch barrels. Accuracy, well, it’s not any more a distance weapon than a NAA or Derringer. I contacted Standard Mfg. [7] M1860s were carried not only by cavalry but also by many infantry and staff officers as the regulation Model 1850 Army Staff & Field Officers' Sword had to be privately purchased. And mushy. Took mine out for the first time today. That just sounds funny to me. “sold the last of the HK VP70s for $250” The Thunderstruck does what it’s advertised to do. Note the rectangular shape in the paper target as the round impacts it as it enters sideways. Can the Barrels be Threaded so a Kitbash barrel extensions as a twin carbine…. It looks like they take advantage of the definition of “automatically” within the general definition of “machinegun” in 27 CFR § 479.11. Why the 22wmr LCR is only 6 rounds baffles me. I bought one just for the fact that it shot 2 bullets with one trigger pull. Ergonomics: * * * Today marks the 10th anniversary of the ambush and murder of ICE-HSI Special Agent Jaime Zapata in Mexico.He was killed by narcoterrorists with the drug cartel Los Zetas and his partner Victor Avila was seriously wounded. Action: Double-action only It’s something to keep in mind. I was looking forward to this gun for it’s light recoil and hard hitting 22 mag but I can’t trust this gun. Hmm maybe they should have called it 222. This also means that the revolver can be used for Two-Weapon Fighting very easily because you don't need a free hand to spin the barrels like you do with a Pepperbox. I would not use this as a primary carry option but would consider it as a backup carry using an ankle holster. The sights are damn stupid and so is selling it without the finger groove for the pinky, which they sell, for 20 bucks plus shipping. All in all I wouldn’t recommend this gun at all, I’m ready to sell it off. As for follow-up shots, like getting to Carnegie Hall, you’ll want to practice, practice, practice. First and foremost, it’s long. Now, if this thing had a 2.5″ barrel, that would be a different story and .22WMR would start to show some advantages at that length or longer. 5. “Pepperbox” style guns are prohibited here (gee, was that a surprise? And I can carry it in a vest pocket, plus when the hammer is in the safety notch it won’t fire, even when dropped. No two powder charges are identical, nor are the burn patterns within the shell casing as the gas pressure builds sufficiently to press the round from the shell casing. This is a classic buyer beware product. Everbodee need a twice barreled shoot gun. Our review gun wasn’t new and it seems to have held up well to a number of rounds fired. . DO NOT USE Aguila, Winchester Super X or lesser brand. As for the Thunderstruck moniker, maybe they’re AC/DC fans. Which brings us to the question of caliber. In before the ATF classifies this as a machine gun. Since my “smith” had never seen one, we left it with him for the week. safety will be gone. NOT RECCOMMENDED AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’m not a fan of the trigger design, though. The Heckler & Koch P7 owns the the title of “safest self protection firearm available. You have entered an incorrect email address! Some think that because it fires more than one round with each pull of the trigger, the S333 qualifies as a machine gun. I am an avid collector of weapons and have quite a bit invested in my collection. Click to see our best Video content. Of all, I think the BACKUP was the most useful. I owned one in the late ‘70’s, early ‘80’s. By the end of the Civil War over 300,000 1860 sabers had been produced: 200,000 by Ames, 32,000 by Roby and many more by firms such as Tiffany and Co, Glaze, Justice, and Emerson and Silver. As Standard Mfg describes their trigger design . I’ll stick with my “conventional” guns. 3. A blade safety in the trigger (and heavy trigger) is HARDLY grounds for their “safest” claim. It was 41 inches (104 cm) long with a 35 by 1 in (88.9 by 2.5 cm) blade and weighed 2 lb 4 oz … If you think that’s unusual, maybe you missed the introduction of their S333 Volleyfire six-round .25 ACP pepperbox … Way too many hooky thingies. I’ve had it happen twice where the bullets don’t shoot. Whichever, it’s a stupid idea. Hope our exposure and experiences help current and future owners of the Thunderstruck. For under $400 It becomes a viable choice for some. Though count me in when they release the double barreled suppressor module! But guns like the Rogak bring top dollar even though they were dogs. You read that right. The only two magazines worth reading anymore. I will say, though, I like this design a lot better than the original S333 pistol. Et une poivrière Colt pepperbox navy (9mm). A gun with a barrel this small has a serious problem with the front sight profile. Why not a standard single trigger with an 8-lb pull and protective guard? Famous users included George Armstrong Custer and J.E.B. The S333 double action revolver’s trigger pull weight, according to Jeremy’s scale, is….23 pounds. Purchased a MK XIX stainless/ported 50AE DEagle as a range toy and never looked back. So, high, and to the right. 1) Unless the blade safety needs resetting as well, I can think of at least 3 different non-permanent ways to by pass that for lower finger only operation. © COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Capacity: 8 rounds After this conversation, I advised them to cancel the items yet to be received and credit my card. En fait plus exactement, là il ne tient que par une seule vis, mais comme on n’en trouve pas à l’achat séparément, le démontage n’a aucun intérêt. Needs name change from Thunderstruck to Dumbasfvck. Specifications: Standard Manufacturing S333 Thunderstruck Revolver, Caliber: .22 WMR She examined the cylinder and saw where it had been dry-fired repeatedly. I guess it gives a new meaning to the phrase “Double Tap”…. Anybody wanna bet on 2x .22WMR four times vs 1x 9mm HST eight times? . I think I would like it more without the strange two finger trigger and open triggerguard. .22 WMR is a potent round from a rifle, yes. [2], Before the Civil War there was no light or heavy cavalry in the US army. And doesn’t have a trigger pull rated in tons. He cleaned up the damage, retested the gambit of ammo, and gave us some valuable data. I was interested in the Arsenal twin 45 until I actually held one and saw the price (YIKES). I bought another. As a youngster, I was fascinated by the VP70M with the shoulder stock-holster, three-round burst capability, and 18-round magazine. Agree with this, a curio stuck way back in the safe and brought out once every couple of years to say “Hey check this out.”. While it’s theoretically possible to fire the gun using only one finger on the top trigger position (which would depress the blade safety), in practice, it isn’t possible. If one side is a dud, the other side will probably fire. 2. Brian Nussbaum & Associates Some of the weapons used by the narcoterrorists were walked to Mexico as part of the Obama-Biden Administration’s Operation Fast and Furious. ), I didn’t realize cool stuff would cease production or be banned and not available in the future. Because who in the world would ever want the first polymer-framed, striker fired pistol? One finger on top just won’t do it. 2) With all those pokey things sticking out, it’s not likely a pocket-carry piece. The humor has worn off. The gun shoots high. I like ‘em. Newsletter sign up. I’d love to have one, just for the cool factor. It puts eight rounds on target with four pulls of the trigger at self-defense distances and does it very reliably. The People’s Republic of Kalifornya needs a wall around it. The S333 features non-adjustable 3-dot sights that are painted red. The Thunderstruck is nicely constructed with an aluminum frame with steel cylinder and barrel. Before I posted my comment above, I literally visited the CA DOJ website to view the current (as of Oct 2019) gun roster. In May 2014, Yoshitomo Imura 3D printed and fired a Zig Zag .38 Revolver. I’m not an attorney and I don’t play one on TV, so I won’t try to deconstruct the ATF’s decision. .22 Magnum in this gun was a stupid decision. [4] In 1861 these mounted regiments were renamed cavalry and given yellow piping. I use a .460 Rowland in my 1911A1. At first, only OK. The Thunderstruck’s small size and fairly light weight it a good concealed carry option. I feel I now have a $400 paper weight. If you’re looking for higher quality ballistic properties akin to a single barrel, the S333 wont produce them. It looks kinda like the Leonad (?) I don’t think it ever made it into production, but it was at SHOT show one year. When I was young and stupid(er? Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 3290 W. Big Beaver Rd. I have a friend that has one and it takes a bit of practice to shoot well but it’s been completely reliable (probably 1,000+ rounds) which is an important consideration given its purpose. As a self-defense option…well, it probably wouldn’t be my first choice. I do agree that the .22 mag is potent. Yep, I thought about that, too. This. They wanted to make sure it was both safe and reliable. Agreed, dozen gauge way much better in double shooter gun. The quality of the weapons finish and their EXTREMELY POOR customer service have given me a bad taste of Standard Mfg. But Standard stuck with the S333 name because it describes the intended use case of this guns…i.e. Twisting your elbow with the shot to absorb the recoil/trigger pull actually does allot for one handed shooting. I’m surprised Arsenal has not been gigged for the double 45acp. So true. I think they would get a lot more sales if it was 20 bucks. Old, those handguns are giving a peek at your birthday. Usually engraved on the scabbard with his name, rank and dates of service. The 4140 steel cylinder releases with a push of the button on the left side of the frame. That one was the pepperbox-style weapon chambered in .25 ACP. [10] Most are given as PCS (Permanent Change of Station) or ETS (Expiration of Term of Service) gifts to a departing Cavalry Trooper. Yes, I know. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Concealability * * * * * Recoil isn’t bad at all….about what you’d expect shooting a .38 snubbie. This will only occur with a complete pull of the trigger; no other revolver on the market has this type of safe and reliable system. Connecticut-based Standard Manufacturing made something of a splash with the announcement of their S333 Thunderstruck revolver. Outdoor Sportsman It’s a novelty. 1. The trigger pull is heavy and the reset takes some getting used to. This gun is flinging bullets around the target in such a way as to be dangerous. I shot one box of 22 mag, and out of the 50 rounds I had 20 light strikes, I also had to pop out the cylinder 8 times because it locked up and wouldn’t cycle. YOU DID NOT ORDER IT DIRECT FROM SA BUT FROM A DEALER WHO GOT IT FROM A WHOLESALER. I prefer white or dayglo yellow, but that’s me. The spike at the end can crack a coconut and helps conceal the profile of the gun in your pants. S333 is available in California. Mexican carry? Why does this happen? Some jobber sold the last of the HK VP70s for $250 as I recall seeing in Shotgun News. Mfg. Try as I might, I don’t have the finger strength to pull the S333 trigger with only my index finger. That may make you nervous about the trigger catching on something and unintentionally touching off a couple of rounds. I wish I had the money to collect them. I’m actually a fan of .22wmr for self defense as long as proper care is taken in ammo selection. How thick is the Cylinder Walls between Chambers and what type or grade of metal alloys or steel is used in the construction of the cylinders…. I’m referring to their single purpose designs that are intended ONLY for very close last ditch self defense. [8] Many replaced their sabers with extra revolvers, or left it in the saddle while fighting on foot[9] with their repeating Henry rifles and Spencer carbines. Unimpressive gun. Revolver: You can't reduce the reload time past a move action, but a 6 round capacity means you shouldn't need to reload frequently, especially at low levels. The keyboard commandos among TTAG’s commentariat are already limbering up their fingers to decry .22 WMR as wholly inadequate for personal defense purposes. Their holsters look reasonable and are priced well too. It’s a get the @$&! Period. Didn’t see this make/model listed, so assumed it’s not approved for sale. I do concede that it would not be my only SD or primary SD. The non-adjustable sights are what they are (I’d paint the sights a different color if it were mine). America. Others have reported similarly bad accuracy. I’ll have to verify this. Not high enough at personal defense distances to be a problem, but high nonetheless. What gives? Meh. Fits ANYWHERE, just ask female prison guards. I would do some cutting and removing and then lighten the trigger pull. I suspect that would depend upon the point of impact, close range or further out. Probably won’t get one, but thanks for the information about it. Weight: 18 oz They already had a unique firearm, I think they took it too far. The “wake” of the shock wave is slightly bent backward behind the lead round (think of what you see behind a traveling boat – wake) (but for the projectile ’round,’ the pattern of the shock wave looks more like the symbl of a drum set being pushed face first through the air). Compare it to a similarly-sized Smith & Wesson 642 which is exceptionally concealable, both on the waist or in the pocket (Standard Manufacturing offers a number of holsters for the gun). I was like a few of you and thought, “Double-barrel revolver? This model is currently used in some U.S. Army Cavalry units in Color Guards, or when in period type uniforms. Who knows, 50 years from now it might be worth a thousand bucks. Le barillet n’est pas démontable, comme tous les Colt. Later in the Civil War large cavalry charges became less common[1] and the cavalry took on the role of skirmishers. And cheaper to operate too. I was told that it would be no problem and I should send in pictures via email. In short, despite the open trigger guard, it’s virtually impossible to fire the S333 unintentionally. People always like weird stuff and it will be good for a laugh. The pocket-size wheel gun packs eight rounds of .22 WMR ammunition and fires two round with each pull of the trigger. After 3 or 4 full cylinders of firing, it will need cleaned. I wish I had bought HK VP70Z (civilian, non-burst fire model) and P9S when they were available. Backup and conversation piece. about it and about the order not being complete. More Guns, more better. In short, a gun that is fun, powerful, and after you understand it, a quick little 8 shooter. Bacon Arms C. Pepperbox Revolver (VS - Revolver - .22 cal rimfire) Baikal MCM (Rusland - Pistool - .22 LR) Baikal MP-141K (Rusland - semiautomatisch karabijn) Baikal-441 (Rusland - Pistool - 6,35mm/.25 ACP) Baikal-442 (Rusland - Pistool - 9 x 18 mm) Bajōzutsu revolver (Japan - Revolver) M. M16A1 (internationaal - Automatisch Geweer More then 1 round per trigger pull. The Velo-Dog revolver for the 21st century. They were made of metal though. [3] It was 41 inches (104 cm) long with a 35 by 1 in (88.9 by 2.5 cm) blade and weighed 2 lb 4 oz (1.0 kg) alone or 3 lb 10 oz (1.6 kg) with iron scabbard. Pretty sure this high velocity, out of control projectile, will still penetrate attire, break skin, and do severe tissue damage. That’s no mean feat when you’re dealing with rimfire ammunition. .22mag + .22mag = .44mag. Most of those guns won’t, of course, hold eight rounds or shoot two of them with each trigger pull. 1/2 the trigger would be cut off. Besides the fact that the S333 launches two rounds of .22 magnum at a time, the other feature that stands out is the gun’s trigger. Sorry, calling BS on the manufacturers statment QUOTE; “The S333 is the safest self-protection firearm available due to its blade style safety on the trigger, which must be depressed before the trigger can be pulled.” END QUOTE. 4. Or buy Practice Ammunition at ~$11.00/box…. “Standard Manufacturing has submitted the S333 to the ATF which has given the gun its blessing.” First off, the Volleyfire didn’t really catch on and is no longer in production. Somebody wants this. The trigger pull was truly obnoxious (15+ lbs.) Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Lot: 3092 - Allen's Pepperbox Revolver 6 shot, nicely engraved Lot: 3093 - C. F. Young Style Pistol with Fold-Out Bayonet Percussion, 7" barrel Lot: 3094 - Beretta Model 75 Semi-Auto Target Pistol 22 cal., with uncommon 5 3/4" barrel with an extra 3 1/2" barrel, serial number 12396 Lot: 3095 - Lefever Nitro Special Side by Side Shotgun 30" barrels It’s a blast to shoot…literally. Yes, I know they all look very different and these fire only one round per trigger pull (yank?). Interestingly, the Simmerling and the derringers are still in production, sort of. Not for me, but kudos for thinking outside of the box. There was marks on the plastic flag where it was dry-fired (thank God the plastic was still in). You have to use both fingers and want to fire the gun. . ), As of August 2018, the Std. And that’s with the safety blade disengaged but all of the pull happening only on the bottom portion of the trigger — the part with the most leverage. Stout, but very doable. Until ATF FTB changes their alleged mind again. The .22 tcm has a flatter trajectory…. Fit and Finish: * * * * guns but a little better quality……..a little. HORRIBLE SERVICE AND QUALITY. Luckily, with the right ammo and good hygiene, I have not had a single misfire. Those two finger indentations aren’t there for fun. MSRP: $429 (about $370 retail). InRange just tested this and at as low as 7 yards this gun can’t hit a man-sized target. That was half what a Beretta 92 was going for once the army adopted them. To be clear, you can carry other handguns (revolvers and semi-automatic pistols) that shoot .380 ACP, .38 Special, 9mm or .357 Magnum in the same size as the S333. Basically, I was being called a liar. I’ll stick to something a little more general purpose, just in case I have to shoot at something (one) more than 10-12 feet away. and the lack of sights disconcerting, but it did carry 6 rounds of 45 acp. As for the effectiveness of two .22 WMR rounds at a time, I have to believe that would deter most attackers. From a 1″ barrel it wastes all its power making flash and noise, resulting in actual bullet speeds no better than 22lr from that same barrel. #S333Thunderstruck #S333 #22WMR #22Mag #22Magnum #Revolver #StandardManufacturing #Flamethrower, A post shared by The Truth About Guns (@guntruth) on Oct 23, 2019 at 9:58am PDT. Accuracy: * * We shot it with ammo from Armscor, CCI and Hornady and didn’t have a single failure. . Rocklin Armory You’re not likely to use it for anything beyond five yards. Bottom line, buyer beware. .22 WMR is a potent round, and the thought of two of these firing at the same time is respectable. 6. The S333 double action only revolver has enclosed hammers within an aluminum frame. True, one for one and only 5. I shot about 100 rds in it so far. I can’t imagine I would buy one for any purpose other than bizarre range plinker, I am content with my existing carry guns and don’t think this would offer me an advantage. Connecticut-based Standard Manufacturing made something of a splash with the announcement of their S333 Thunderstruck revolver. Better chance if it was made entirely of metal and was attractive. While the S333 certainly conceals well, the fact that the gun shoots consistently high with a heavy trigger means you’ll want to put in plenty of range time with it, something that should be a consideration when buying. Big mistake. Doesn’t matter for us Californians, tho. He was later arrested and convicted for owning four 3D printed plastic pistols at his house. Should be spectacular with .22 tcm’s instead of the .22 wmr’s…. Stuart. Wait! Choose your favorite. But; Jeremy, who also shot the gun, is fully capable of firing it with only one finger, but just barely. The Model 1860 Light Cavalry Saber (also known as the M1862 as this was when the first 800 were issued)[1] is a long sword made of steel and brass, used by US cavalry from the American Civil War[2] until the end of the Indian wars; some were still in use during the Spanish–American War. Cylinder material: 4140 steel It can shoot farther than your lawyer, but not your game warden. After it’s first trip to the range, with about 60% misfires across 6 brands of ammo, we noticed the problem(s). I will not recommend doing business with this company or the S333. MyName, because it’s a stupid idea, or maybe you’re being facetious. In September 2013, Hexen organization produces the Reprringer Pepperbox .22 Revolver. An answer for a question no one asked. What they don’t mention, however, is that the S333 also has an extremely heavy trigger pull. Dungeons and Dragons (D&D) Fifth Edition (5e) Magic Items. And an 8 round revolver is cool too. But in a tense, adrenaline-fueled situation, I can see a defender possibly doing the same thing. But like the trigger, the S333’s accuracy gets easier with repetition. That would be one hell of a recoil, two .45acp fired at the same time…. I was just called by someone at Standard Mfg. Barrel material: 4140 steel If you think that’s unusual, maybe you missed the introduction of their S333 Volleyfire six-round .25 ACP pepperbox a couple of years ago. Weapons the ATF curses are infinitely more attractive. Standard Manufacturing has submitted the S333 to the ATF which has given the gun its blessing. [5], The M1860 saber received its name to distinguish it from the larger and heavier Model 1840 Heavy Cavalry Saber that it replaced. A&W Surplus & Supplies Top box on the stack at the gun shop. This concept reminds me of the AMT 45acp BACKUP, the COP 357 magnum 4 barreled derringer, the LM4 Simmerling, various single and double action derringers, etc. I came across a review of the Standard Manufacturing S333 and found it to be unique weapon. The heavy trigger pull, as you can see above, led me to pull my shots right at first. I suppose some one could buy it as an interesting collectors item, as in, guns that never took off in sales. Instead there were "Dragoons" (founded 1830) and "Mounted Riflemen" (founded c.1840). off me weapon when you’re to close already. All of that is true. That said, being hit with a .22 WMR is nothing to sneeze at and being hit with two of them at a time is even more attention-getting. But I’m sure someone will buy it just for giggles. trigger) was made to use at or near point blank. Given the S333 eight-round capacity, that leaves you two more rounds still in the chamber(s). . I could live with the heavy trigger and shell extraction but the above canceled all that out. “I’m not an attorney and I don’t play one on TV, so I won’t try to deconstruct the ATF’s decision.”. Don’t let me disparage my favorite magazines. Comfy fun. This is the sword the cavalry use in Westerns, many being original antiques purchased by the movie industry in the 1920s when surplus Civil War equipment was cheap. The Model 1860 Light Cavalry Saber (also known as the M1862 as this was when the first 800 were issued) is a long sword made of steel and brass, used by US cavalry from the American Civil War until the end of the Indian wars; some were still in use during the Spanish–American War. Take A Sneak Peak At The Movies Coming Out This Week (8/12) Britney Spears through the years: a look back at her greatest red carpet moments Gonna go browse PSA right now. Lol. Some are also worn, in full Dress Blues, (when earned on a "Spur Ride" or combat tour) with Stetson and Spurs. What a disappointment. American Derringer owns the production rights to the LM4 and the former High Standard derringer, but I’ve never seen either one at a gun show or on Gun Broker, etc. You can’t have higher pressures in a malleable rimfire casing, so the WMR adds slower burning powder to keep that modest pressure up as the bullet travels down a longer barrel.